“But when you tell people we’re just no different than sinners, ‘were just sinners saved by grace,’ you have a bunch of people sinning, because that is what you are preaching to them. We got to preach that this Gospel is the power of God unto salvation. It changes you, praise God, it makes me happy."
If you go to Chets blog, you'll also he has a great list of his posts concerning the issue and a list of Dan Edelens and Peter Smyths posts on the issue as well.
I've said things about it before myself, only to find angry saved by grace sinners quoting me scriptures about how if I say I don't sin I'm a liar and the truth is not in me. That's a good way to end a conversation, because I can't see any reason to keep talking once you've labeled me with that stick. And at that point I don't exactly see the point in trying to convince someone that obviously wants to remain a sinner saved by grace.
But I've said it before, we allow ourselves to sin. We even excuse it sometimes before we sin "I probably shouldn't say this but... " We can do that... if we're sinners saved by grace. But a saint. Saints have higher standards don't they. The difference between the saints and the sinners seems to be that one side holds the standard to the best of their ability and with Gods grace to do so, and the other side simply know the standard and don't expect to have to hold to it on every single teeniny issue because that's just nitpicking.
I'll hold myself to a standard but I've watched myself at times specifically allow myself to sin. I give myself permission. I shouldn't say it, but... BAM it's said. I shouldn't do it, but BAM it's done. And I promise you, if you point out my error to me I'll probably be frustrated with you for being so nit picky. It's wrong of me to think it, I know, but it generally takes a bit before I'm willing to let go of that sin of frustration.
Did I really just use the word sin? I should have said it was hard to let go of that feeling. It was just a feeling. I wish! My feelings are
I want to be holy. I want to be perfect. I want to be set apart and peculiar (if you're reading the verses I'm linking to, make sure to note the word "all" and "zealous" on the peculiar verse). I want to be righteous. I want to be like Jesus (1st vs is best, but whole chapter is a good read for the discussion of saint/sinner).
I may be the funniest looking saint in the entire Christian world but I want to be a saint. I don't want to be a sinner anymore. I want to be a new creature. Old things passed away, born again. A conqueror. No, not a conqueror - MORE than a conqueror.
I don't want to be a sinner anymore. Not even a sinner saved by grace. I want to be a child of God adopted and saved by grace.